Airband antenna advice

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Wonky
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Airband antenna advice

Post by Wonky » Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:32 pm

I am wanting to improve my airband reception and wondering if anyone can offer some advice or their experiences with the following two antennas:

Diamond D777 (http://www.strictlyham.com.au/diamond-d777)

VH-50 (http://www.radiospecialists.com.au/ante ... 20band.htm)

I have considered the Icom discone AH7000, but a discone can't really go up with the current setup unfortunately.

Thanks

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Re: Airband antenna advice

Post by freqwaves » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:00 pm

I have not had any experiences on the antennas that you mention but they do look well made. I have 2 antennas I can use for airband monitoring.
One is made by Mobile 1, CBD124 which is a Vertical base antenna 1.6mtr in length with a 3dbi gain. Check their website for further specs. Purchased in 2012 for $165.
It's got good reception & has weather well (still looks new).
My other is a Diamond D130j discone which I have had for 20 years & still performing well but understand this is not suitable for your setup.

Regards, John.

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Re: Airband antenna advice

Post by Wonky » Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:40 pm

Thanks John, appreciate your thoughts. With the CBD124 is the cap on the top a plastic one? It is a bit hard to tell from the their website...

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Re: Airband antenna advice

Post by freqwaves » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:14 pm

Thats a good question,might have to get on the roof to check.
I know what your thinking that over time they crack up & let water in.

John.

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Re: Airband antenna advice

Post by Wonky » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:42 pm

Yup, had it happen to a couple of GME UHF CB base sticks (won't use them anymore) from that experience :x

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Re: Airband antenna advice

Post by rustynswrail » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:11 pm

Wonky wrote:Yup, had it happen to a couple of GME UHF CB base sticks (won't use them anymore) from that experience :x
While this is slighty OT, I use a dual band amateur co-liner that has been up for more years than I can remember. I bought it at Andrews, it is one of his Diamond knock offs. Despite the best efforts of the weather, cockatoos and various others birds it has never missed a beat. If I gave it a wipe over with some WD40 it would look brand new and no leaks.

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Re: Airband antenna advice

Post by Wonky » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:04 pm

Interesting you say that Russell, I was wondering how the dual bands go for airband receiving, do you use it for airband at all? I was considering the Andrews X-200N-ACS dual band as an airband / GWN setup but wasn't too sure how it would go 10 - 15MHz out on each band.

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Re: Airband antenna advice

Post by rustynswrail » Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:31 am

Wonky wrote:Interesting you say that Russell, I was wondering how the dual bands go for airband receiving, do you use it for airband at all? I was considering the Andrews X-200N-ACS dual band as an airband / GWN setup but wasn't too sure how it would go 10 - 15MHz out on each band.
I do a little airband and would say it works fine, but I have nothing to compare it against. Also I am at 1500 feet ASL so pretty much a bit of wet string would work. As far as the Andrews antennae are concerned, I have the X-50-ACS with the SO239.

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Re: Airband antenna advice

Post by system_tech » Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:56 pm

Receive bandwidths are generally much greater that the measured transmit bandwidth (as measured by Return Loss / SWR).

I have successfully facilitated both receive and transmit (Mt Allyn / Barrington Tops to helucopter over Hornsby) on airband (around 130 MHz), using a standard VHF Highband folded dipole.

SWR on airband was very poor but it worked well on Tx / Rx.

A wider bandwith VHF Highband antenna such as a folded dipole or groundplave antenna would work for Rx.

You could, of course, make your own "on frequency" folded dipole or grounplane antenna.

Be wary of antennas that do not have a high angle of elevation (above antennas have have reasonable high and low angle response).

ST

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Re: Airband antenna advice

Post by Wonky » Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:28 pm

ok, thanks ST

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