NSW P25 GRN - Site Listing (current)

[Bigfella237]

With just a cursory look through the list I already see that a heap of sites have problems (this is more of a 'note to self' to fix later):

001-007 Chullora
all of the 001-050 simulcast sites off Horsley Park
001-068 SPC
001-071 Parramatta
001-073 Chatswood
001-075 Castle Hill
001-099 CoW 3
002-071 Mullengudgery
003-027 Nowra

Looks like my mistakes, it appears I've just looked up the LCNs on the wrong chart without checking the offsets. I'll have a more detailed look and hopefully fix all the problems later tonight...

Andrew

[Bigfella237]

So a thought just occurred to me... Does that mean that those HSGA Client ID licences on the ACMA are actually frequency-based?

IE. anything in Bandplan 05 will eventually be licenced to a separate Client ID to anything in Bandplan 04?

Andrew

[rustynswrail]

Maybe someone who works for Telco Authority and fence sits on this forum could answer that question, without the world imploding?

R

[matthewn1983]

Seems Griffith now has a GRN site, showing up as Site 56 on the handset. (No other details sorry) assuming its 3-56.

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[Bigfella237]

So a thought just occurred to me... Does that mean that those HSGA Client ID licences on the ACMA are actually frequency-based?

Disregard, I just noticed that new site at Griffith has freqs under 420MHz licenced to the HSGA Client so that blows that theory out of the water.

And thanks Matt, I just moved that Griffith site out of the Unidentified sites list and into zone 3 of the main list, as well as updating the map.

*RFSS 003 Site 056 - GRIFFITH (Pioneer Park Museum Scenic Drive) - ACMA Site: 100797
*Note: This entire site is licenced to the HSGA Client ID (20036248)

It seems a little odd being in zone 3 as every other site nearby is zone 2, but 002-056 is already allocated to Bourke (Telstra Exchange 47 Oxley St), and there are a heap of gaps in the list before 003-056 so who knows?

Thanks again,
Andrew

[cartman]

Dsd and Unitrunker were reporting the same channel numbers. I understand that Site 174 is now operational as of today, so i will have a good hard look at it when i get home from work soon

Peers:
106, 109, 144, 346, 347

[commsmc]

Some publicly available Telco docs might help...
https://www.telco.nsw.gov.au/sites/defa ... v1.0_0.pdf
http://service.content.sydney/standards ... bution.pdf
https://www.telco.nsw.gov.au/sites/defa ... 20Plan.pdf
http://telco.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/f ... anual.docx

[Bigfella237]

According to that "Transportable Repeaters Guideline", all locationally-challenged frequencies are licenced under a separate ACMA Client ID (20019468), which has 49 licences against it, so the following should be a complete list of all possible NSWGRN CoW site TX frequencies:

04-0002 412.48750
04-0004 412.50000
04-0006 412.51250
04-0008 412.52500
04-0010 412.53750
04-0012 412.55000
04-0014 412.56250
04-0016 412.57500
04-0018 412.58750
04-0020 412.60000
04-0022 412.61250
04-0030 412.66250
04-0062 412.86250
04-0146 413.38750
04-0148 413.40000
04-0150 413.41250
04-0152 413.42500
04-0320 414.47500
04-0322 414.48750
04-0324 414.50000
04-0326 414.51250
04-0328 414.52500
04-0330 414.53750
04-0332 414.55000
04-0334 414.56250
04-0336 414.57500
04-0338 414.58750
04-0340 414.60000
04-0342 414.61250
04-0350 414.66250
04-0382 414.86250
04-0466 415.38750
04-0468 415.40000
04-0470 415.41250
04-0472 415.42500

05-0338 422.11250
05-0358 422.23750
05-0378 422.36250
05-0398 422.48750
05-0498 423.11250
05-0518 423.23750
05-0538 423.36250
05-0558 423.48750
05-0578 423.61250
05-0598 423.73750
05-0618 423.86250
05-0638 423.98750

plus two freqs with a +7.0MHz offset that don't conform to any GRN bandplan:
n/a 421.83750
n/a 421.92500

With a quick look at the CoWs we have listed, all comply with the above list except for the voice freq on 001-098 (possibly recorded incorrectly)?

Andrew

[Bigfella237]

I think I've fixed all those mislabeled LCNs in the list now, with the exception of site 001-068 SPC... I don't know what the hell is going on with that site?

It's not in my spreadsheet, which is supposed to be a backup copy of the forum list, and it's not on the map, which has every site licenced to the GRN & HSGA Client IDs. So I went looking at the ACMA site (3519) and the frequencies listed are licenced to a completely different Client ID not related to the GRN at all (as far as I know anyway)?

ACMA Client ID 20019469 is the NSW "Telco Authority (Low Power Services)" with 132 licences spread across 88 sites, so if this is actually a GRN site at the SPC then there may well be many others that we've never heard of? I'm gonna have to sit down and go through all those sites to figure out what's going on, but that will have to wait till I have more time.

The weird thing is, I don't even remember adding 001-068 to the list, and it seems very strange that I would add it to the list but to not the map nor my spreadsheet, almost impossible with the systems I have in place I would've thought? Something strange is going on...

[Mike Alpha]

And to throw another spanner in the works, 420.175MHz and 423.800Mhz are coming up as a voice frequencies on Chullora site 1-007 but aren't listed on ACMA as such.

The only two 420Mhz voice freqs listed at Chullora are 420.025Mhz and 420.525Mhz. I've never seen them come up.

Unfortunately I'm not running Unitrunker to sus it out.

Mike