RID: 12345

[Scotty]

Is anyone using software apart from unitrunker and get the same issue ?

Russell, can you post what these ID's you have are ?

I'm interested because either PRO96Com is missing something or UT is showing false readings ?

I've got a couple of 5 digit RID's, but all (from what I've observed) display 'denied' when they try to connect.

Plenty of 6 digit users, but no confirmed 5 digit users.

Some of the 5 digit ones I've logged are likely 'quirks', but from the responses I've received regarding '12345' I'm pretty confident that a radio with that ID (legitimate or not) has been trying to connect.

[rustynswrail]

It could be, but I've had a couple of PM's (as well as cartman's reply in this thread) from others advising they've seen the RID trying to access sites.

Is anyone using software apart from unitrunker and get the same issue ? Russell, can you post what these ID's you have are ? I'm interested because either PRO96Com is missing something or UT is showing false readings ?

The list is below. I lied it is not 50 or 60 but infact 90. You can see certain patterns in some numbers, others appear to be just random. I will others to make whatever conclusion they will.

R

11255
11277
12345
14409
22652
25976
25990
25996
26027
26029
26032
26042
26053
26067
26090
26098
26100
26117
26118
26128
26157
26158
26161
26165
26171
26187
26187
26189
26193
26196
26204
26217
26223
26240
26255
26278
26285
26293
26294
26296
26298
26299
26303
26304
26317
26324
26329
26346
26353
26357
26382
26384
26386
26397
26422
26425
26428
26441
26458
26468
26479
26480
26485
26490
26491
26494
26504
26508
26509
26511
26516
26566
26588
26607
26612
26617
26626
26629
26633
31017
55109
56216
57877
57923
58174
58184
58239
58392
58484
58922

[ivahri]

Hi Rusty,

I have a theory to explain most of those... my suspicion is that whoever programmed the radio cocked up & used the old analog Smartzone ID. When you programmed the radios you dropped the first digit (the 7) and entered the last 5. ie. 58922 is actually analog trunk ID 758922.

Of course it isn't going to work...

Cheers


Richard

[rustynswrail]

Hi Rusty,
I have a theory to explain most of those... my suspicion is that whoever programmed the radio cocked up & used the old analog Smartzone ID. When you programmed the radios you dropped the first digit (the 7) and entered the last 5. ie. 58922 is actually analog trunk ID 758922. Of course it isn't going to work... Cheers Richard

Richard,

Good theory, except for one thing. Would the 9600 baud P25 system even acknowledge the existence of the 3600 baud analogue radios / RID's? Just asking...

Russell

[ivahri]

Sorry Rusty, I didn't explain it properly... the analog trunking ID has been used as the Astro trunking ID... so the radio is using the P25 system in P25, just the wrong ID. That mistake is made on the Clone Radio page where there is (from memory), Analog Trunk ID, MDC ID, Astro Trunk ID, Astro conventional ID. So the radio would be set up correctly for P25, just the wrong ID.

Cheers

Richard

[rustynswrail]

Sorry Rusty, I didn't explain it properly... the analog trunking ID has been used as the Astro trunking ID... so the radio is using the P25 system in P25, just the wrong ID. That mistake is made on the Clone Radio page where there is (from memory), Analog Trunk ID, MDC ID, Astro Trunk ID, Astro conventional ID. So the radio would be set up correctly for P25, just the wrong ID. Cheers Richard

Richard,

Okay now it makes sense.

R

[Bigfella237]

Any radio ID between 1 and 16777211 (0xFFFFFB) inclusive is technically valid for an ASTRO 25 trunk system (according to CPS help) although that range can be restricted for any particular ASK and obviously on the system itself.

For some reason they (whoever 'they' were at the time) decided to use only seven-digit IDs on the GRN starting at 1000000, possibly to fit in with state by state RID allocations, although that hasn't been confirmed?

And of course exceptions to that rule have been made since its inception as well...

Andrew