Incident Ground channels

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Re: Incident Ground channels

Post by Chrisco » Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:55 pm

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Re: Incident Ground channels

Post by Bigfella237 » Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:39 pm

Bigfella237 wrote:501 INCDNT01 471.3500 Simplex 218.1Hz 25.0kHz
502 INCDNT02 471.5250 Simplex 218.1Hz 25.0kHz
503 INCDNT03 471.7000 Simplex 218.1Hz 25.0kHz
504 INCDNT04 471.7250 Simplex 218.1Hz 25.0kHz
505 INCDNT05 471.8500 Simplex 218.1Hz 25.0kHz
506 INCDNT06 425.2625 Simplex 218.1Hz 12.5kHz
507 INCDNT07 425.2875 Simplex 218.1Hz 12.5kHz
508 INCDNT08 425.3625 Simplex 218.1Hz 12.5kHz
509 INCDNT09 425.5000 Simplex 218.1Hz 12.5kHz
510 INCDNT10 425.5875 Simplex 218.1Hz 12.5kHz
511 INC RPT1 421.8750 428.8750 192.8Hz 12.5kHz
512 INC RPT2 421.9875 428.9875 192.8Hz 12.5kHz
ivahri wrote:On the incident ground channels... there is also a channel 513 and a P25 equivalent for each of these. Cheers, Richard
Add: 513 INC RPT3 421.7625 428.7625 192.8Hz 12.5kHz

Does anyone have a complete listing of the incident channels including the P25 ones?

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Re: Incident Ground channels

Post by ivahri » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:40 pm

Easy...

Put a "D" in front of each channel- same frequencies but with a NAC of 100 for 501-510, and a NAC of 110 for 511-513.

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Re: Incident Ground channels

Post by Bigfella237 » Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:38 pm

Thanks Richard,

So...

D501 INCDNT01 471.3500 Simplex NAC=100 12.5kHz
D502 INCDNT02 471.5250 Simplex NAC=100 12.5kHz
D503 INCDNT03 471.7000 Simplex NAC=100 12.5kHz
D504 INCDNT04 471.7250 Simplex NAC=100 12.5kHz
D505 INCDNT05 471.8500 Simplex NAC=100 12.5kHz
D506 INCDNT06 425.2625 Simplex NAC=100 12.5kHz
D507 INCDNT07 425.2875 Simplex NAC=100 12.5kHz
D508 INCDNT08 425.3625 Simplex NAC=100 12.5kHz
D509 INCDNT09 425.5000 Simplex NAC=100 12.5kHz
D510 INCDNT10 425.5875 Simplex NAC=100 12.5kHz
D511 INC RPT1 421.8750 428.8750 NAC=110 12.5kHz
D512 INC RPT2 421.9875 428.9875 NAC=110 12.5kHz
D513 INC RPT3 421.7625 428.7625 NAC=110 12.5kHz

Did channels D501-D505 stay wide band or change to 12.5kHz spacing?

And I assume the old analog incident channels are being phased out and will disappear in the full P25 profile?

Thanks again,
Andrew

EDIT: To change spacing on channels D501-D505 to 12.5kHz
Last edited by Bigfella237 on Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Incident Ground channels

Post by ivahri » Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:51 pm

Hi Andrew,

All of these channels are narrowband. The 471MHz channels were wideband in the past but they are now set up as narrowband.

There has been no decision made on when or even if incident ground comms will move to P25. There are pros & cons to it that need to thoroughly understood by the users before existing analogue simplex gets phased out.

It is very likely that all of these frequencies will change in the next 2 years because of the band plan. When that happens comes down to how fast other services move (because we can't move to new frequencies if the existing services are still there) & of course the $$$$$ associated with yet again reprogramming a few thousand radios. We definitely want to keep some simplex channels above 450MHz for future appliance based cross-band applications. Not saying that this will happen, just we don't want to close off the option by giving up these frequencies.

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Re: Incident Ground channels

Post by Scotty » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:11 pm

Bigfella237 wrote:D511 INC RPT1 421.8750 428.8750 NAC=110 12.5kHz
D512 INC RPT2 421.9875 428.9875 NAC=110 12.5kHz
D513 INC RPT3 421.7625 428.7625 NAC=110 12.5kHz
Just looking through some old threads for some info and came across these channels.

Can you confirm what frequency is the repeater output? The 421 or the 428 range?

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Re: Incident Ground channels

Post by JAFO » Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:22 pm

The out-put would be the 428
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Re: Incident Ground channels

Post by Scotty » Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:52 pm

Thanks Grant. Thought it would be 428, but always best to check.

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Re: Incident Ground channels

Post by Mr Flibble » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:41 pm

Don't want to dig up an old thread but just clarifying if A501-A505 stayed 25khz spacing or changed to 12.5.

I understand that Digital D501-D505 is 12.5 bandwidth, but I just want to confirm if the radio profile still has 25khz spacing on these channels for analogue or if it is also 12.5khz.

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Re: Incident Ground channels

Post by ivahri » Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:39 pm

It's neither here nor there... 2 x 12.5kHz= 25kHz. They are now programmed as narrowband channels (notional 2.5kHz bandwidth). A501=D501, same freq, same bandwidth, different modulation. The channels haven't changed, just the receive & transmit bandwidth as ACMA want wideband licences gone. It also results in a very slight spectrum access cost saving. At this stage these 471MHz channels remain but by 2018 they may need to be shifted into the harmonised government spectrum, however for now ACMA have advised that narowbanding them is sufficient. We need to keep them up high in case we want to implement cross-banding in appliances (don't get excited- no plans to do that yet but we never shut a door unless we have to).

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