expanding north

[cartman]

P25 off Transit Hill is suppose to be used by police for the Port Macquarie Triatholon, so i am told.
Sounds like there is a comms truck stacked with p25 portables for temporary deployment travelling to these country venues.
Tamworth Country Music festival is also covered by temporary P25 according to the locals.
While I think of it I understand that at the Bathurst 1000 police use P25 encryption on 6 channels as these crowds are more volatile

Grant

[cartman]

No digital transmissions heard in the Port Macquarie area when i was listening to the "locals" this morning on "Oscar" (Mid North Coast)

Grant

[cartman]

This is a list I have put together for the Mid North Coast Police. I have been trying to get my head around what Alison posted, what Phil has posted elsewhere on the Aussie Scanners forum ("...receiving P25 from North of Kempsey through to just north of Halfway Creek ...") and what is currently listed in the ACMA database (which is what are approved licences but may not reflect the current situation). I would say that the digital currently being heard is a temporary setup for the Car Rally. However it is also likely to be the start of the move across to P25 longer term. In Port Macquarie there are no strong P25 signals being heard locally near the Hastings River (where I am currently). It is likely that I will have to make a number of amendments as people feed in what is happening

Grant


BY FREQUENCY
467.9375 Bulahdelah
467.9625 Crescent Head
X468.0125 DIGITAL Mt Yarrahapinni
X468.0375 DIGITAL ??
468.0625 Kempsey
X468.0750 ANALOGUE - OSCAR Mt Cairncross Port Macquarie
468.0875 Gloucester
468.1375 Mt Cairncross, Port Macquarie
X468.1500 ANALOGUE - Mt Yarrahapinni
X468.3375 DIGITAL
468.3625 Seal Rocks
X468.3875 DIGITAL Bowra Sugarloaf
X468.4000 ANALOGUE
X468.4625 DIGITAL Point Lookout Ebor
468.5125 Jolly Nose Hill Port Macquarie
468.5375 Mount Yarrahapinni
468.6875 Taree
X468.7250 ANALOGUE - "OSCAR" - Transit Hill Port Macquarie
X468.7625 DIGITAL Nambucca Heads
X468.8250 ANALOGUE - "NOVEMBER" - Middle Brother
468.8375 Transit Hill Port Macquarie
468.9375 Taree
468.9625 Yarras Mt Seaview
469.0125 Forster
469.0625 Telegraph Point
469.1875 Boonanghi
X469.3250 DIGITAL Mt Coramba
469.3375 Middle Brother
469.3750 DIGITAL-NOVEMBER Middle Brother
469.4125 Gloucester
469.4250 Forster

X = currently being heard

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When the dust finally settles these will be the VOTING INPUTS FOR NEW MID NORTH COAST DIGITAL

ZONE 3 VOTE 104 Common Input 458.4375Mhz
467.9375 Bulahdelah
468.5375 Mt Yarrahapinni
467.9625 Cresent Head
468.0625 Kempsey
469.0625 Telegraph Point
469.1875 Boonanghi

ZONE 3 POSITION 105 Common Input 458.4625Mhz
467.9625 Crescent Head

ZONE 3 VOTE 107 Common Input 458.5125Mhz
467.9375 Bulahdelah
468.3625 Seal Rocks
469.0125 Forster
469.4125 Gloucester
469.4250 Forster

ZONE 3 VOTE 109 Common Input 458.5625Mhz
468.0125 Mt Yarrahapinni
468.3875 Bowra Sugarloaf
468.0625 Kempsey
468.7625 Nambucca Heads
468.4625 Point Lookout Ebor

ZONE 3 POSITION 110 Common Input 458.5875Mhz
468.0875 Gloucester

ZONE 3 POSITION 112 Common Input 458.6375Mhz
468.1375 Mt Cairncross Port Macquarie

ZONE 3 POSITION VOTE 121 Common Input 458.8625Mhz
468.3625 Seal Rocks

ZONE 3 POSITION 122 Common Input 458.8875Mhz
468.3875 Bowra Sugarloaf

ZONE 3 POSITION 125 Common Input 458.9625Mhz
468.4625 Point Lookout Ebor

ZONE 3 VOTE 127 Common Input 459.0125Mhz
468.1375 Mt Cairncross Port Macquarie
468.8375 Transit Hill Port Macquarie
469.3375 Middle Brother
468.5125 Jolly Nose Hill Port Macquarie
468.9625 Yarras Mt Seaview

ZONE 3 POSITION 128 Common Input 459.0375Mhz
468.5375 Mount Yarrahapinni

ZONE 3 POSITION 134 Common input 459.1875Mhz
468.6875 Taree

ZONE 3 POSITION 137 Common Input 459.2625Mhz
468.7625 Nambucca Heads

ZONE 3 POSITION 140 Common Input 459.3375Mhz
468.8375 Transit Hill Port Macquarie

ZONE 3 POSITION 144 Common Input 459.4375Mhz
468.9375 Taree

ZONE 3 POSITION 145 Common Input 459.4625Mhz
468.9625 Yarras Mt Seaview

ZONE 3 POSITION 147 Common Input 459.5125Mhz
469.0125 Forster

ZONE 3 POSITION 149 Common Input 459.5625Mhz
469.0625 Telegraph Point

ZONE 3 POSITION 154 Common Input 459.6875Mhz
469.1875 Boonanghi

ZONE 3 POSITION 160 Common Input 459.8375Mhz
469.3375 Middle Brother

ZONE 3 POSITION 62 Common Input 459.8750Mhz
469.3750 Middle Brother

ZONE 3 VOTE 163 Common Input 459.9125Mhz
468.0875 Gloucester
468.9375 Taree
468.6875 Taree
469.3750 Middle Brother
469.4125 Gloucester

ZONE 3 POSITION 64 Common Input 459.9250Mhz
469.42 50 Forster

[ivahri]

Hi Grant,

I'm not sure that you are aware that there was a government directive to support the car rally due to its tourism benefits. Just because Police are rolling out a system for this does not mean anything for the long term, any more than it did 2 years back when they did the same thing at Murwillumbah & Tweed Heads. This event comes around every 2 years over 10 years. NSWAS & NSWPF purchased or rolled out systems to take potential load off their normal networks.

Cheers,

Richard

[cartman]

No, not aware of the government support for the car rally, beyond the fact that they used the GRN in earlier years. I think what happened up near the border was partly to avoid interference issues from the Qld digital system - it was analogue on the .125khz splits last time i checked it out in Casino (eg 468.8625). So if the new frequency allocation is for support for special ops like the Port Macquarie Triatholon etc that would make sense.

Grant

[system_tech]

Interestingly, there has been talk for quite a while, going back say 5 years that the UHF northern expansion (Necastle to Qld border) of the Police Radio would be via GRN. A while back, a contractor was engaged to research coverage and possible sites. The initial pass was 40 sites, later expanded to around 70. Given the imperatives of IPART, and measures to save the goverment money, why would the police be building there own digital network expansion when GRN could be piggy backed for greater efficiency?

Another lost opportunity, or is there more to it?

S_T

[cartman]

Maybe the Police are hedging their bets
The licences on the ACMA are dated April-May 2010
Presumbably like the rest of us, they have decided that the North Coast expansion will take a long time to come to fruition
But if that is the case why are they doing the same thing out the south-west eg Yass, rollout of new frequencies in areas already covered by the GRN footprint
Sounds like they still want control of their "private" network even when forced to move

Grant

[crafty]

Just heard VKG say they are separating channel Oscar and the special operation channels. It appears the digital channels are for the rally.
Also sound like channels Oscar and Papa have been combined.
I'm still recieving channel oscar on VHF in the Coffs area on 78.3625, 78.4500, 78.5500, 78.6375, 78.2875

Cheers Allison

[ivahri]

Thanks Allison for confirming that...

Grant the reason for the Police going to GRN on the North Coast is that they were seeking a very large allocation to replace about 70+ sites that are life expired. It made more sense for those funds to be put towards trunking AND providing the coverage that the Police require. Other areas could happen but there isn't the financial imperative (or the coverage) to drive it. They are going to the GRN on the North Coast, I had it confirmed yet again only yesterday. I have good contacts Grant, believe me!

Cheers,


Richard

[cartman]

There are reports appearing on the Aussiescanners.com forum that a number of (but not all) "Papa" sites (Northern Rivers) are now transmitting P25 while still maintaining VHF analogue

467.8875 Tx St Helena Byron Bay
468.2875 Tx Springbrook Qld
468.8625 Tx Parrots Nest Lismore
469.0875 Tx Mt Nardi, Lismore
469.1375 Tx St Helena Byron Bay
469.3875 Tx Razorback, Tweed Heads


Grant