NSW P25 GRN - Site Listing (current)

[Bigfella237]

Holy crap!

I just checked the ACMA and there's TWENTY new GRN sites that have been licenced (so far) today!

Looks like most of them are on the North Coast but that's gonna take hours to create all those sites so it'll have to wait until later tonight (they may not have finished adding more sites yet today either). I will also likely need to go through all the existing "Relay" sites and check if they've added frequencies too.

Andrew

[crafty]

Hi all
416.1000 is NSW Fire+Rescue and has been operating for a number of years. This site covers Ballina and the Pacific Highway to the south of Ballina.

Regards Allison

A new ACMA site popped up this evening licenced to the GRN Client ID, but I'm not sure what to do with it? It is:

BUCKOMBIL (Northern Rivers Comms Site Buckombil Mountain Road) - ACMA Site: 10004361

But it's only one single frequency licence (416.1000 MHz) and it's virtually right on top of an already existing proposed site licenced to the HSGA Client ID (see map here):

EDIT: Looking further it seems this freq was authorised 27/Nov/2018 and has possibly moved from the first site (it's still duplicated there under the same client number), I'll recheck tomorrow but I'd guess the other freqs may follow suit?

[Bigfella237]

Thanks Allison,

So then the question is, why did this site only pop up under the GRN Client number yesterday?

Andrew

[Bigfella237]

~ Looks like most of them are on the North Coast ~

Okay so I couldn't have been more wrong about all these new GRN sites being on the North Coast, it actually looks like most of them are those "Priority Sites" that were on a map a few pages back...

Added to the NSWGRN map:

Microwave Relay Site - ABERCROMBIE (Council Hut Mt Ryan Triangle Flat) - ACMA Site: 100877
Microwave Relay Site - BERRIDALE (Barneys Range via) - ACMA Site: 9743
Microwave Relay Site - BOOROWA (Radio Hut Mt Canemumbola) - ACMA Site: 9547
Microwave Relay Site - CONDELL PARK (Water Tower 1a Simmat Avenue) - ACMA Site: 5278
Microwave Relay Site - GLENVIEW (Trig Point) - ACMA Site: 404822
Microwave Relay Site - LITHGOW (Bracys Lookout off Hassans Walls Rd) - ACMA Site: 151130
Microwave Relay Site - MT CRACKENBACK (Eagles Nest Restaurant THREDBO) - ACMA Site: 9734
Microwave Relay Site - MT DEFIANCE TRIG (Commsite) - ACMA Site: 202200
Microwave Relay Site - MT PERISHER (NPWS Site) - ACMA Site: 9751
Microwave Relay Site - MURRURUNDI (SRA Site Mount Helen off New England Hwy) - ACMA Site: 6403
Microwave Relay Site - PORTERS CAMP (Country Energy Site) - ACMA Site: 6755
Microwave Relay Site - REDGROUND (Laggan Trig (8 km Nth of Crookwell)) - ACMA Site: 9538
Microwave Relay Site - SANDY HOLLOW (NPWS Site Mt Dangar 8 km W of) - ACMA Site: 9004405
Microwave Relay Site - SCONE (Mt Woolooma via) - ACMA Site: 35943
Microwave Relay Site - SHOOTERS HILL (Fire spotting tower Tower Road) - ACMA Site: 205971
Microwave Relay Site - SINGLETON (RFS Site Mt Dyrring 18.9km NE of) - ACMA Site: 9021917
Microwave Relay Site - SNOWY MOUNTAIN (12 km SE of Bigga CROOKWELL) - ACMA Site: 9534
Microwave Relay Site - TIMBILLICA (Timbillica Hill via) - ACMA Site: 9151
Microwave Relay Site - WOLUMLA PEAK (Commsite) - ACMA Site: 9152
Microwave Relay Site - YOUNG (Shire Council Site Boundary Rd 7km SSE of) - ACMA Site: 100385

As may be evident, all of today's additions were microwave link frequencies only so I can't really add anything to the Unidentified Sites list yet, but I expect most if not all of these will be upgraded to unID'd sites once the wide area frequencies get licenced?

Andrew

P.S. I'm glad they don't add 20 new sites every day!

[Bigfella237]

As far as the rest of those "CCEP Priority Sites" go, it looks like the only ones we're still waiting on now are Ashford & Inverell in the north, one down around Sunny Corner (somewhere north of Lithgow), Cootamundra & Gundagai on the tablelands, and a site at Bombala in the south.

Then I can't really say I'm looking forward to the "CCEP Metro Sites"... at rough count there's about 80 of those!

Andrew

[Bigfella237]

It appears one GRN site got moved on the ACMA database today:

RFSS 001 Site 072 - ST LEONARDS (Royal North Shore Hospital) - ACMA Site: 203613

...was removed and...

RFSS 001 Site 072 - ST LEONARDS (Royal North Shore Hospital) - ACMA Site: 4091

...was added with the frequency list unchanged:

422.2750
422.5250
423.0250
423.5250
423.7750
424.2750
424.5250
424.7750

I'm not sure why this site has so many AltCC's listed, seems a bit strange?

And one new GRN site was added:

Microwave Relay Site - WALCHA (Clive Blakes Hill off Ohio Rd 4km NE of) - ACMA Site: 41209

This wasn't on the map of CCEP North Coast or Priority Sites but it does fill in the gap on the Oxley Hwy nicely.

Andrew

[cartman]

I was up at Port Macquarie last weekend
Still all quiet up there on the GRN site front (ie nothing from the local site Telegraph Pt)
The RFS were active on 420Mhz band on their various P25 conventional frequencies

FRNSW were heard in analog on
416.1125 218.1 - Transit Hill, Port Macquarie
419.1000 151.4 - Mt Cairncross w of Port Macquarie
419.1250 218.1 - Jolly Noise Hill s of Port Macquarie
419.1750 151.4 - Mt Yarrahapinni, s of Nambucca Heads
419.2000 151.4 - Comboyne (scratchy distant signal)

[citabria]

Interestingly, both 04-0638 416.4625; and 04-1018 418.8375; on Horsley Park appear to be "overflow" channels that only ever get activated when all the other voice channels on the site are busy.

Has anyone noticed this behaviour on any other sites at all?

[Bigfella237]

It's been a while since I've really taken notice but I've seen that before with the AltCC bases, the only time they get used for voice is when the site is at capacity.

I assume you must be able to assign a 'priority' to each base?

Andrew

[system_tech]

Can't say for the P25 system but certainly for the old Analogue SmartZone, the Alt CC (nominally Ch 4 on all sites) was only ever allocated if all other voice channels were in use, hence keeping the Alt CC ready for use as much as possible.

It would make sense that this convention has carried into P25, and if there are more than 1 Alt CC than they would all be similarly be reserved unless needed for voice calls.

ST