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Re: Quantum Paging in Receivership

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:17 am
by citabria
It's a general statement - its not meant to say "never outsource anything" just that if you do, you need to retain control of it somehow.

In this instance, the agencies have been put at someone else's mercy - its that exact situation that the above statement is intended to warn against.

Re: Quantum Paging in Receivership

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:15 am
by system_tech
As we know, RFS in general have developed their own paging network, and are now upgrading it to make it a bit more efficient and smarter.

/Tongue In Cheek/ ON - perhaps RFS could piggypack FR NSW on the network /Tongue In Cheek/ OFF

I know some instances where the odd SES or VRA is on the RFS network. Sensible use of Govt $$.

S_T

Re: Quantum Paging in Receivership

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:42 pm
by ivahri
That may just happen now...

Cheers

Re: Quantum Paging in Receivership

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:37 pm
by Longreach
That would make sense given the RFS pager network is government owned essentially. im suprised this hasnt been the case beforehand rather than outsource to an outside company.
Hopefully someone makes a good decision and keeps it 'in house' so to speak.
cheers
Matt

Re: Quantum Paging in Receivership

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:23 pm
by ivahri
Well it still has to meet the guaranteed response times that Link did- FRNSW has certain statutory responsibilities that the RFS don't need to meet. It would be great if it could be upgraded, and then maintained, to that standard. In the mean time I understand that connections into the Vodaphone paging network were being done today & pager reprogramming is already being planned ASAP.

Cheers,


Richard

Re: Quantum Paging in Receivership

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:53 am
by Scotty
ivahri wrote:sheesh... pagers are still used alot by FRNSW, RFS, & SES because SMS is of no real use if you can't guarantee that the SMS will be dispatched when you send it.

This is no joke... there are 3 agencies impacted by this liquidation.

Richard
It's interested that despite there being numerous operators providing wide area paging services, the mob that carries all the Gov't users (meaning guaranteed customers/usage) is the one that goes under.

Re: Quantum Paging in Receivership

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:44 am
by ivahri
I suspected they were a financial basket case for quite a while. Remember Link were sold to Quantum a few years back- I think Quantum only saw the guaranteed government income but didn't see the 20 year old clapped out hardware, annual ACMA licence fees, site rental fees... the cost to run it without some other form of parallel income (ie 3G phone network) was always going to exceed income. What annoys me personally is that others didn't want to see that this was inevitable.

Richard

Re: Quantum Paging in Receivership

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:44 pm
by vk2fear
Dose anyone know what the new freq is for FRNSW paging is

Thanks

Re: Quantum Paging in Receivership

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:21 pm
by SKEYGEN
SA bought and built a paging network with the GRN, and the paging transmitters are collocated at GRN sites, and use the same backhaul.

Given that the commercial returns on running a pager network only get smaller from year to year, reckon there's much chance of NSW doing something similar?

Re: Quantum Paging in Receivership

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:24 pm
by ivahri
vk2fear wrote:Dose anyone know what the new freq is for FRNSW paging is

Thanks
Whatever the current Hutchison-Vodafone frequency is...